What a great combustible conversation! Shawn Nason, that Man on Fire disrupting health care in his daily mission and work, interviewed Jane on his Combustion Chronicles podcast. We covered a lot of ground, from health consumers and the COVID-19 disruption of our lives, liberties, and pursuits of happiness. The upside of the Great Lockdown and pandemic has led millions of Americans to better understand what can be lost, but ultimately found, through health political engagement. In a word: let’s VOTE on November 3rd for health, health care, and loving our brothers and sisters.